Comments on: Sen. Obama and the Decision to go to War http://dirtyelection.com/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/clinton Dirt from and on John McCain, Sarah Palin, Joe Biden and Barack Obama Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:11:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Frank http://dirtyelection.com/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/clinton/comment-page-1#comment-152 Frank Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:56:54 +0000 http://dirtyelection.com/2008/02/26/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/#comment-152 Well I didn't have any access to top secret reports and I thought it was a bad idea. I felt that Saddam wasn't going anywhere and if he did make a big move with chemical warfare our retaliation would be swift, effective and totally anhilate him in less than 24 hours. Bush rushed into war because Rumfield and Cheny wanted a strong US presence in that country. Well I didn’t have any access to top secret reports and I thought it was a bad idea. I felt that Saddam wasn’t going anywhere and if he did make a big move with chemical warfare our retaliation would be swift, effective and totally anhilate him in less than 24 hours. Bush rushed into war because Rumfield and Cheny wanted a strong US presence in that country.

]]> By: Obama Says Clinton’s Ad Plays on Fears of American | Source for all the Dirt in the 2008 Presidential Election Campaign http://dirtyelection.com/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/clinton/comment-page-1#comment-149 Obama Says Clinton’s Ad Plays on Fears of American | Source for all the Dirt in the 2008 Presidential Election Campaign Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:38:21 +0000 http://dirtyelection.com/2008/02/26/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/#comment-149 [...] right thing to do was to invade Iraq. I think this is the question Barack Obama needs to answer, why did he vote no to the war. I think his answer will be very telling. We will either see that he got lucky and his lack of [...] [...] right thing to do was to invade Iraq. I think this is the question Barack Obama needs to answer, why did he vote no to the war. I think his answer will be very telling. We will either see that he got lucky and his lack of [...]

]]> By: DE http://dirtyelection.com/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/clinton/comment-page-1#comment-136 DE Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:33:39 +0000 http://dirtyelection.com/2008/02/26/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/#comment-136 Thats awesome! Thats awesome!

]]> By: jp http://dirtyelection.com/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/clinton/comment-page-1#comment-135 jp Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:20:23 +0000 http://dirtyelection.com/2008/02/26/sen-obama-and-the-decision-to-go-to-war/#comment-135 During the debate this past evening, the candidates were asked how they would react if a military pullout resulted in a full-blown civil war. Neither Democratic candidate had a satisfactory answer. If we leave Iraq without a stable government in place, a government capable of fielding a police force and an army capable of repelling its enemies, there will be a genocide the likes of which we haven't seen since Cambodia. The Shia and the Sunni and the Kurds will slaughter each other. The oil fields will be torched, and Iran will become a regional powerhouse. We have a moral and ethical obligation to finish what we started. I'm not going to argue whether going in was a good idea or not. I'm not a big enough policy wonk to render that kind of judgment. However, I think it's very, very clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the country will collapse into chaos if we don't leave it with some kind of stable regime taking up our slack. The fact that neither of these Democrats is capable of saying honestly that American blood and treasure are worth more than the blood of the Iraqis we "liberated" is telling. I would respect them more if they simply said what underlies their argument, namely, that we're dying to help Arabs. It's a bigoted and racist notion that the Iraqis should be left to their fate because they're Arabs. We went in there to save them from Saddam. We're obligated to live with the consequences of that action. The alternative, to pull out before we "win", will lead to a genocide. I guess that's ok for the two Democrats running for office. During the debate this past evening, the candidates were asked how they would react if a military pullout resulted in a full-blown civil war. Neither Democratic candidate had a satisfactory answer.

If we leave Iraq without a stable government in place, a government capable of fielding a police force and an army capable of repelling its enemies, there will be a genocide the likes of which we haven’t seen since Cambodia. The Shia and the Sunni and the Kurds will slaughter each other. The oil fields will be torched, and Iran will become a regional powerhouse.

We have a moral and ethical obligation to finish what we started. I’m not going to argue whether going in was a good idea or not. I’m not a big enough policy wonk to render that kind of judgment. However, I think it’s very, very clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the country will collapse into chaos if we don’t leave it with some kind of stable regime taking up our slack.

The fact that neither of these Democrats is capable of saying honestly that American blood and treasure are worth more than the blood of the Iraqis we “liberated” is telling. I would respect them more if they simply said what underlies their argument, namely, that we’re dying to help Arabs. It’s a bigoted and racist notion that the Iraqis should be left to their fate because they’re Arabs. We went in there to save them from Saddam. We’re obligated to live with the consequences of that action. The alternative, to pull out before we “win”, will lead to a genocide. I guess that’s ok for the two Democrats running for office.

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